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Purpose

Initiative
The goal is to accomplish a whole gameplay experience to the best of our ability in both fields of PvP and PvE with the focal point on attaining PvP dominance. That would mean everyone is expected to push themselves to the best of their ability. People are allowed to socialize and have fun, but when it comes time for business – you become a robot and perform your duty.

The ideal is to become a neutral house of top tiered players for sourcing in or out of the guild. That means that we will not be waving a flag like some nation. We will operate as a neutral medium for talented players who have the freedom to play in or outside these walls. The benefit of staying within these walls is that you will be taken care of whilst having the ability to find other talented players in either field of PvP or PvE.

 

PvP
With a steady arena system, rbgs and warplots, WS has some solid options for the RPG PvPer. Anyone accepted into this guild is automatically expected to push high ratings, form teams (whether in or outside the guild) and do what is necessary to attain an elite rank in this field.

PvE
The WS PvE system is a reminder of Vanilla raids with some modern updates to spark a good balance between old and new. It can be potentially very fun, though demanding. Our PvE unit has its work cut out, as the raids will require a large scale frame. Based on how the system works, we will have to PvE and we will do it with excellence

 

Casualization
Even though we are aiming for a hardcore purpose, there will be exceptions allowed for players who wish to take it easier and oldbie members. We call that exception: Casual and it is not free for everyone to join. This means you can’t go inviting all your friends and family as this is limited in the amount of players that will actually be accepted as this rank.

 

 

What won’t be happening

I have to play with X person for my success even though their class may be terrible with mine
Anyone placing this pressure on someone else to do this will be given one warning and if they continue, they will be removed from the guild. It is your duty to find success. Hopefully we contain the talent necessary to help you find that success, but if we don’t, you are not allowed to pressure our other members into helping you if they don’t want to.

 

Personal drama entering guild or progression associations
This is literally the biggest no-no. Anyone bringing in negative emotions, or how they feel personally against someone else, etc. will be warned once. If they fail to uphold the warning they will be removed. We do not care about how much you like or dislike someone or their real lives, their facebooks, who they’re sleeping with and so on and so forth. Keep your high school drama far away from this place.

 

Trash Talk
Trash talk is not permitted in game or on the game’s community forums. The goal is to remain quiet and let your skill do the talking. Obviously we have emotions and sometimes it can get the better of us but failure to adhere to this conduct code despite warnings will result in removal.

 

Inactivity or Laziness
Failure to uphold this structure will result in one warning, then a removal. That means you need to be actively working to assure your spot (or submit a casual application by talking to me) The ranks are not set in stone forever. You can be demoted / promoted and or removed based on your performance, skill, dedication and conduct.

 

 

 

What will be happening

Rated Play of all sorts: 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 and 10v10. Maybe even Warplots!
I want everyone to find what niche they can succeed in. This will mean for the first part of the game, a lot of us will be doing experimenting with different partners and or teams to see what role we fit into best. Whether we succeed better as a BG player, Arena player or Warplot master, each and every one of you need to determine their strongpoint.

Skirmishes
One of the benefits of Watchmen will be to enforce guild skirmishes to help improve each other. Thankfully WS has a non-rated system that does not afflict ratings negatively, so we will be utilizing this often to test different comps, specs or just have fun with radical teams. This is GBB on steroids.

PvE
Yes, we will be PvE'ing! End-game raids? Yes, indeed. This will have to be altered based on how many are able to show up and dedicate to the cause but the intention is also to fully enjoy that aspect of the game.

Good ole’ fun
Now for a breath of fresh air from the seriousness? Despite the severity of conduct and structure we will be enforcing, Watchmen won’t be losing its personality. Balance is the key here. There’s a time for work, rest, play and believe me, there’s a time for drunk nights of endless wipes.

 

 

Ranks

Cortex
Overseer.

Enforcer
Officer rank only permitted to the most dedicated of the organization.

Management
Standard officer rank. Members here will be obligated to ensure our stability.

 

PvP-A
This rank belongs to the top tiered PvPers in our association. It is attained by earning high PvP ratings.

PvP-B
This rank belongs to prominent PvPers. It is attained by earning a respectable PvP rating.

PvP-C
Entry PvP rank. Beginners are expected to rise out of this rank as quickly as possible.

 

PvE-A
This rank reflects a hardcore PvEr. It is attained through the highest possible combination of skill, dedication and persistence.

PvE-B
This rank reflects a rising PvEr. It is the standard that combines skill, dedication and persistence.

PvE-C
Entry PvE rank. Beginners are expected to rise out of this rank as quickly as possible.

 

Starter A beginner in either field of PvE or PvP. Natives here will be deciding what path they choose to go onto. This field risks expulsion if you are undecided for too long.

Casual
This rank is limited! Natives here will be able to casually participate in PvP or PvE but they will not be priority.

 

We will be rolling on the PvP server: Pago as Dominion.

 

Update on Ranks:
Due to game limitations (7 max ranks, lol) these ranks have been adjusted in game. Due to the nature of the design intent, it will take some time for everyone to fill into their ranks.

 

 



-- Edited by Xinika on Friday 6th of June 2014 06:08:00 PM

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Looks good to me. Ready to rock!

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So K and I have been talking about this for a while and this is how I kind of see things going (based on the guidelines above):

Each player within the guild's sole purpose is to achieve the highest rating possible. This could mean playing with your friends within the guild and grinding away on the ladder, or it could mean branching out into the community and finding other good players/comps on your own to play with. Don't feel like just because you're here and you enjoy our company that you're forced to only play within the guild at your own detriment, and vice-versa don't expect to harm someone else's performance based solely on being "guild mates". This might mean some of you have to come out of your comfort zone to play with "strangers" but we were all strangers once and it's such a good experience to play with other people and get their view on the game - what they think of classes, how they communicate, what kind of strategies they use, etc. In conclusion, each person should be doing whatever they can to maximize their chances of winning and moving up in the rankings (legitimately of course).

Hopefully without this juvenile pressure within the guild to play with guild mates over all else, things will be drama free. Play with who you like, when you like and enjoy yourself. If you don't like someone, don't play with them - it's not a big deal. Same goes with players outside of the guild. If you don't like someone, use that ignore function (huge fan, myself) and go back to focusing on your goals. This should all be about self-improvement, so don't let anyone stop you from achieving that by trying to make u mad, bro.

Ranks will be mostly tied to rating. This means the higher rating you achieve, the higher rank you will achieve within the guild. Think you deserve a higher rank within the guild? Prove it. Queue up and show us what you can do. Being held back by your partners? Get new ones. Can't find a team? Ask around, branch out and little by little you'll grow a robust friends list full of similarly capable players. This guild will be all about proving it. We want to objectively house the best talent on the server/game, and in order to do that we can't be having excuses like "but my teammates, but my friend tanked my rating, but X".

"So if we're supposed to do everything on our own and guild mates don't really matter what's the point, GJ?"

Well, first off, I think we're a fun group of people to be around. We have our serious moments but they come with silliness and friendliness as well. Secondly, like K mentioned, we're going to be housing the top talent on the server so although we say you're able to search outside the guild for partners, hopefully you can find a match within the guild based on similar skill. Third, although it's up to each of you individually to perform, we are here to help. That means if you have questions about comps, builds, gear, strat, anything, you'll have a group of knowledgeable players from which to reap information. Hopefully these three things bring in new players to play with, and help keep the guild a fun and competitive place to be.

As for me, I'll be around if you guys need anything. I'm pretty knowledgeable about this game, and if I don't know something I'll happily find out. I have a lot of Arena experience in this and other games, so if you need help, even with the basics, feel free to ask. I plan on eventually having an alt Warrior whom I can mess around on with you guys. Warning: my main Warrior is going to be serious and if you play with him, even in guild skirmishes or unranked play, be prepared to be held to the same high expectations that I hold for myself (and really, this should be what happens when anyone plays together). 

Ok, well, release is in a few days and we can get started on the grind to 50. I don't plan on going insanely hard (unusual for me) but I still plan on hitting 50 at a quick pace, and I suggest you all do the same. Getting behind in gear at the start can be difficult and I also don't want members still being below max in a month or 2 from now - you will get kicked due to inactivity.

Anyways, welcome to Watchmen and I hope your Wildstar experience is a good one with us!



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I am assuming we are all playing to be on 12:01 for the head start?

I have cleared my weekend and will be attempting to grind to 50 asap. That being said, rather new to it, having only played in the beta sparingly. Was curious if we all plan to sit in mumble or whathaveyou ? Being new to the Watchmen and having only really played against most/some of you in various games, I would enjoy the chance to put the name to the face/voice.

Either way, im around. More than ready to go. Lets get loose.

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BK wrote:

I am assuming we are all playing to be on 12:01 for the head start?

I have cleared my weekend and will be attempting to grind to 50 asap. That being said, rather new to it, having only played in the beta sparingly. Was curious if we all plan to sit in mumble or whathaveyou ? Being new to the Watchmen and having only really played against most/some of you in various games, I would enjoy the chance to put the name to the face/voice.

Either way, im around. More than ready to go. Lets get loose.

I'm sure we'll figure something out for launch and let everyone know.



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BK wrote:

I am assuming we are all playing to be on 12:01 for the head start?

I have cleared my weekend and will be attempting to grind to 50 asap. That being said, rather new to it, having only played in the beta sparingly. Was curious if we all plan to sit in mumble or whathaveyou ? Being new to the Watchmen and having only really played against most/some of you in various games, I would enjoy the chance to put the name to the face/voice.

Either way, im around. More than ready to go. Lets get loose.

 All that will be announced, including mumble etc.



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Yeah im not exactly sure what time launch is for me. If it's something ridiculous like 6 in the morning i wont be there.

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Yeah im not exactly sure what time launch is for me. If it's something ridiculous like 6 in the morning i wont be there.

Midnight Pacific, 3am Eastern, something awful European.



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Yeah im not exactly sure what time launch is for me. If it's something ridiculous like 6 in the morning i wont be there.

Midnight Pacific, 3am Eastern, something awful European.

 Best bet would be to go to sleep early and miss it by only a couple hours. That's a bit of an outrageous time for some players.



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Xinika wrote:
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Yeah im not exactly sure what time launch is for me. If it's something ridiculous like 6 in the morning i wont be there.

Midnight Pacific, 3am Eastern, something awful European.

 Best bet would be to go to sleep early and miss it by only a couple hours. That's a bit of an outrageous time for some players.

Ya, I couldn't make it anyways due to work. I'll be on around 8am EST though if you guys wanna start with me in the morning instead.



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Midnight Pacific? That's 9am. Is it midnight on saturday? (night of fri>sat)

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Evo wrote:

Midnight Pacific? That's 9am. Is it midnight on saturday? (night of fri>sat)

Friday "night" at midnight (aka Saturday morning for you).

Fuck clocks btw.



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That's not too bad. I'll just have to get a proper bedtime for once.

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So why Pago instead of Prego?

 

Or Pergo or whatever it's called



-- Edited by Krom on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 08:46:55 PM

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Krom wrote:

So why Pago instead of Prego?

Less letters to type. One less letter gives us more time to play the game in the long run.

Also, fresh start and Pergo is kind of where all the forum douches seem to be going so rather not be a part of that crowd. Cross server queues though so not a bit deal.



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It is a big deal when you have to find 40 people for raids, and pago is polled at only 10% rolling there.

Raiding on low pop servers isn't fun. I'm gonna stick to Pergo

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Krom wrote:

It is a big deal when you have to find 40 people for raids, and pago is polled at only 10% rolling there.

Raiding on low pop servers isn't fun. I'm gonna stick to Pergo

Valid point, but the server name was only released today and the poll is only taken by people who frequent the forums of a game in beta that isn't even playable atm. Can't take it as fact. They're not launching with a ton of servers, I'm sure some will have a larger population (like any game) but there won't be ghost towns, imo. We'll look into it though.



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Glassjaw wrote:
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It is a big deal when you have to find 40 people for raids, and pago is polled at only 10% rolling there.

Raiding on low pop servers isn't fun. I'm gonna stick to Pergo

Valid point, but the server name was only released today and the poll is only taken by people who frequent the forums of a game in beta that isn't even playable atm. Can't take it as fact. They're not launching with a ton of servers, I'm sure some will have a larger population (like any game) but there won't be ghost towns, imo. We'll look into it though.

 

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Krom wrote:

It is a big deal when you have to find 40 people for raids, and pago is polled at only 10% rolling there.

Raiding on low pop servers isn't fun. I'm gonna stick to Pergo

 And how do you know Pergo will have the highest population? That's not confirmed either.



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even if that outcome is true im sure carbine will do some kind of server merger or transfers from higher pop to lower pop server anyway so imo lets roll pago and discover it for ourselves tbh

 

besides there is attunements for raids again in this game plus i saw in one of the streams that 40 mans come after gearing from 20 mans anyway so it may take us a bit just to get into 40 mans



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Can't wait

Don't expect handouts kids, time to earn your stripes.

And MAKE SURE YOU BUBBLE.



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even if that outcome is true im sure carbine will do some kind of server merger or transfers from higher pop to lower pop server anyway so imo lets roll pago and discover it for ourselves tbh

 

besides there is attunements for raids again in this game plus i saw in one of the streams that 40 mans come after gearing from 20 mans anyway so it may take us a bit just to get into 40 mans



-- Edited by MeltDowN on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 10:35:49 PM

 

That didn't work out too well in FFXIV; server merges never happen soon enough. 



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Can't wait

Don't expect handouts kids, time to earn your stripes.

And MAKE SURE YOU BUBBLE.

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD



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We have no clue if any PvP server would be a healthy epidemic for PvE. To say Pergo is it or any other server will be low pop at launch is nothing more than guessing. The game has very few servers so each server will have a solid population at the start. To back that up, there's only 3 US PvP servers... so I mean, who's to say the one we choose would be the lowest?

I'm also deeply against amalgamation. I'm not fond of being on an overpopulated server just because everyone's there.

Every PvE unit that plans to invest in WS knows of the 40-man dangers and a lot of them will be teaming up. We're not necessarily an exception, so we'll have to see how this rides. The other option is to invest into a PvE server (game is cross server for PvP anyway) but are we all really willing to devote to the 40-man as the focal point? I think we should let it ride out a bit. I'm expecting practically every server to be packed at launch.


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MeltDowN wrote:

even if that outcome is true im sure carbine will do some kind of server merger or transfers from higher pop to lower pop server anyway so imo lets roll pago and discover it for ourselves tbh

 

besides there is attunements for raids again in this game plus i saw in one of the streams that 40 mans come after gearing from 20 mans anyway so it may take us a bit just to get into 40 mans



-- Edited by MeltDowN on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 10:35:49 PM

 Also true and I'm positive we can muster up 20m.



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I am excited to play with you guys again and do some major healing! Plus hybrd 2vs2 medic if course server does not matter to me but am glad it's a pvp. I will most likely be doing 6-50 in pvp and cannot wait to see you all launch. KOLTO BAAAAMB biggy out

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Also does anyone have any clue if there going to have pvp dailys/weeklys. It would be nice not tht the co that you get from pvp especially those long matches does not add up :)

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And my last post on here is why I shall be levelling in pvp and not so much pve. I will be medic healing from 12-50 I say twelve because at twelve I get some more heal so it makes it much more worth while. Anyways much like swtor I want to pvp heal almost 100% of the way because I want to be the best medic heals the server has seen. I want to inspire people again to be just as good if not better then me at the class. So it's gonna be a long fun road and cannot wait to do it. Also melt I'm looking at you for twos bud

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lol 2s it is

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Krom wrote:
That didn't work out too well in FFXIV; server merges never happen soon enough. 

 but thats final fantasy you cant say carbine wont just because final fantasy didnt



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focal point on attaining PvP Dominance.



-- Edited by Xinika on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 01:51:51 PM

 

 



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Trash talk is not permitted in game or on the game’s community forums. The goal is to remain quiet and let your skill do the talking. Obviously we have emotions and sometimes it can get the better of us but failure to adhere to this conduct code despite warnings will result in removal.

 


-- Edited by Xinika on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 01:51:51 PM

 

no

Guess Glass and I will be guildless?

Zab won't make it past the 2nd day.....still got Evo it's k though <3



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It's not hard not to trash talk. I mean let's help out these "bad" players make ten good you would be surprised what a little bit of help can create. As in possibly someone who will make the best of the class there playing and who knows better then any of is could play it.

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Bigbada wrote:

It's not hard not to trash talk. I mean let's help out these "bad" players make ten good you would be surprised what a little bit of help can create. As in possibly someone who will make the best of the class there playing and who knows better then any of is could play it.

 You're right, it isn't. Just press this wonderful thing called the ignore button. biggrin



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there's an ignore?! o.O

(was joking,                                                                      mostly)   =]

 



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Also did look up to see if there would be pvp dailys/week I could not find anything on it so if anyone else finds something let me know!

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Also also servers are still up for beta....I have been playing a chua to get use to the start zone so I can just zoom past to lvl 6 and just pvp the hell outta the game!

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x.x patching......



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also playing on pago the server we are intending to go too

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graphics keeps getting cleaner every time =D



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Bigbada wrote:

Also did look up to see if there would be pvp dailys/week I could not find anything on it so if anyone else finds something let me know!

 I'd like to know too.

Also nice avi xD



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indeed my toon on pago is bigbadabooom

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Dominance wrote:
Xinika wrote:

 

 

Trash talk is not permitted in game or on the game’s community forums. The goal is to remain quiet and let your skill do the talking. Obviously we have emotions and sometimes it can get the better of us but failure to adhere to this conduct code despite warnings will result in removal.

 


-- Edited by Xinika on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 01:51:51 PM

 

no

Guess Glass and I will be guildless?

Zab won't make it past the 2nd day.....still got Evo it's k though <3

?

I never talk shit, tbh.

Edit: I talk a LOT of shit, but it's to you guys about others and it's always settled in the queue.



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Bigbada wrote:

Also did look up to see if there would be pvp dailys/week I could not find anything on it so if anyone else finds something let me know!


I'd like to know too.

Also nice avi xD




thanks shin!

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Dominance wrote:
Xinika wrote:

 

 

Trash talk is not permitted in game or on the game’s community forums. The goal is to remain quiet and let your skill do the talking. Obviously we have emotions and sometimes it can get the better of us but failure to adhere to this conduct code despite warnings will result in removal.

 


-- Edited by Xinika on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 01:51:51 PM

 

no

Guess Glass and I will be guildless?

Zab won't make it past the 2nd day.....still got Evo it's k though <3

 you forgot me, i talk more trash than what i have seen from you both combined

 

i mean i did get prime defense to start bitching on the wildstar forums



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Xinika wrote:

 

 

Trash talk is not permitted in game or on the game’s community forums. The goal is to remain quiet and let your skill do the talking. Obviously we have emotions and sometimes it can get the better of us but failure to adhere to this conduct code despite warnings will result in removal.

 


-- Edited by Xinika on Wednesday 28th of May 2014 01:51:51 PM

 

no

Guess Glass and I will be guildless?

Zab won't make it past the 2nd day.....still got Evo it's k though <3

 you forgot me, i talk more trash than what i have seen from you both combined

 

 Always the operatives lol



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I guess you guys never read the swtor sin/shadow boards before..
I intend on a fresh start though..

And tbh, from judging what is going on at the wildstar forums right now i might just keep posting to a minimal /w high value..

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Evo wrote:


And tbh, from judging what is going on at the wildstar forums right now i might just keep posting to a minimal /w high value..

 The idiocy on those boards are toxic.



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i dunno i dont normally read the forums cause its stupid but honestly the amount of qq on the stalker forums and spellslinger forums post nerf is hilarious "if they dont fix this im rerolling" im glad all the nubs are gonna be rolling engineer

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